(Poll) 9.0 Boss Timers Change

Which of the following boss times do you think is the most fair and suitable for all players?

  • Option 1

  • Option 2

  • Option 3

  • Option 4

  • Option 5


Результаты видны после голосования.

Stirling

Active Member
Hello folks,

Kusanagi asked me to create a poll for the boss timers and mentioned that they may change in the coming days based on the votes. Therefore, I am creating this forum thread. You can vote for one of the five options listed above or if you prefer the current timers, you can choose the fifth option.

Here's a brief explanation about the abbreviations:

  • MSK - Moscow Time Zone (Permanently on standard/winter time)
  • CST - China Standard Time Zone (Permanently on standard time) (Beijing GMT +8)
  • CET - Central European Time Zone (Changes between winter and summer time)
  • WET - Western European Time Zone (Changes between winter and summer time)
  • KRK - Kraken / Кракен
  • BD - Black Dragon / Ксанатос
  • Chary - Charybdis / Калидис
  • Ganth - Garden Anthalon / Анталлон в садах матери
  • Halcy - Halcyona / Даскшир
  • Hasla - Hasla / Хазира
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Red - Central European Time Zone
Orange - China Standard Time Zone
Blue - Western European Time Zone
Green - Moscow Time Zone

This thread aims to facilitate discussions among all players to find the most fair time zone. The server is an EU server, but considering the presence of Chinese players, an option has also been included for their participation. The goal is to ensure that, for example, players in Ireland or Portugal can fairly participate in events alongside players in St. Petersburg or Beijing.
Considering past patches as examples, such as the player nation patch (The Heaven vs. Just Quality), having boss timers set to 2 hours helps keep PvP active and sustains the presence of content in the game.

If we vote the fifth option, which is the current timers, it seems impossible for players from Central European countries like Germany and Western European countries like Ireland to participate in Kraken events. This is because Russia permanently applies standard time, meaning that for a player connecting from the United Kingdom or Ireland, it results in an event being 3 hours (in winter time) earlier. For players connecting from Germany or the Netherlands, it's 2 hours (in winter time) earlier. This sets the Kraken event times at 16:30 for Central European countries (like the Netherlands, France and Germany) and 15:30 for countries like the United Kingdom, Ireland and Portugal. The Sunday morning Kraken would be at 8:30 and 7:30, respectively. People are likely to be working at these times except Sundays, which will reduce participation in PvP.

Option 1 :
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Option 2 :

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Option 3 :

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Option 4:

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Option 5:

Leave it as it is stated in 9.0 Patch Notes


In the future, we can reduce boss timers to 1h 30 minutes instead of 2 hours after Battle of Mistmerrow Instance is released and add that instance after the boss despawns so the day pretty much starts with halcy, bosses and then ends up with Mistmerrow. (This can be discussed later whenever it is released)


The voting will remain open for two weeks. If there is a request from the administration or if the discussion extends, it may be extended.


I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this topic and I believe that together with the administration, we can make the server even better.
 
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选项1:
黄金(除了周三)凌晨一点(指半夜场)
黄金(周四)凌晨二十四点三十
攻城(周四)凌晨四点

黑龙(周三周六)凌晨四点三十
黑龙(周六)晚上十点三十
克拉肯(周三周六)凌晨四点三十
克拉肯(周日)晚上十点三十
翡翠谷(周一周二周三周五周六)凌晨四点
庭院安塔伦(周日)凌晨四点
卡里迪斯(周一)凌晨四点

选项2:
除了攻城,所有凌晨四点推迟至凌晨五点
选项3:
将克拉肯和黑龙合并在一天内
选项4:
增加更多的卡里迪斯,减少黑龙和克拉肯
选项5:
不做更改
周三周五凌晨两点三十和三点三十

除了BOSS,在所有选项里,主线翡翠谷征兆也被从凌晨两点全部推迟至凌晨四点
我的建议是将BOSS推迟至凌晨四点的同时,在下午四点增加额外的BOSS用来平衡,否则这只是在简单的排除中国玩家。
周一至周五是工作日,我很好奇谁能够在工作日的凌晨四点参与BOSS?😥
中国人不会参与此类带有明显不公平的投票,如果一定要选择一个选项,我觉得让莫斯科时间的人减少睡眠,去熬夜陪西欧时间的人参与PVP是一个不错的选择
 
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Well another timer change another reminder..
Timer changes don't help with pvp. Didn't help in NA, players still complain there and they are still trying to revert the set timers there as well. Same people will show up at that timezone and deny the others as well. I won't simply show up for early prime because i would be at my office and go out after, it's as simple as that. Prime EU times should remain prime EU times without being tampered, because what else are we going to do if our actual prime time is empty? I would rather start playing something else. If a lot of people want Chinese timers, the admins can consider creating a Chinese server which we suggested many times and they denied it.
Here are the actual arguments;

I) Timezone changes have no intention of adding more pvp, but handicapping the other side to have less people present during prime
Past week Saturday west had around 195-200 against east, east was maybe around 130. During the current set weird timer, only half of that will be present but West will have the bigger advantage anyway. However, west already has a big number advantage, why is this even considered since it's the same group of people that will just be there earlier while im at work i guess?

II) EU/RU Primes already were being contested by asian timezone players
I remember very well that west asian timezone players contested us mid week too with over 100 people for months (Speaking about 7/8 months ago), but majority of them don't show up because there isn't guaranteed loot. That's not even subjective, it's just how things are with some players, if there are no rewards, they are not coming to help you. You can take a look at west halcies where everyone goes afk instead of pvping, thats just how west is in general. The timer people keep spamming about is not suggested for more pvp, it's suggested for more personal benefit/rewards by people who don't really care about pvp

III) No rewards for attending pvp
Timezone isn't the problem, the problem is that people don't recieve rewards when they are denied, and the winning side gets the boss loot. So naturally, people who lose resort to either a) not showing up or b) spamming the admin for timer changes (Which is what happened here i guess with the timer change)
People could suggest adding extra rewards to the quest or having it being auto completed from a further range, something in correspondance to halcy rewards
 
No matter how you modify it, RU will always have one force that is dominant and enjoys the golden time. No one wants to stay up late and no one wants to get up early. But with seven days of fighting, management can be balanced.
 
If the server has 1000 Chinese players, because of the time difference, there is no Chinese team in the west, but the 50 players who are willing to stay up all go to the east, you deny the other Chinese players? If the BOSS time turns into the day, you say you have to work and can't play, don't Chinese people need to sleep at night to participate in PVP? The siege was every Wednesday in the wee hours of the night. Chinese can only attend WH? GR?
 
I am observing west daily and majority of the west chinese players are AFK at halcy. They simply aren't participating, they will die once and remain afk in the base for the remainder of the fight, this is also true for bd/kraken, they will just afk if they realize there will be no rewards and give up. We aren't denying anyone anything, the facts are that this is a RU/EU server and not a Chinese server, so the timers will evolve around that. Instead of asking for timer changes, you should ask for a Chinese server to be made
 
Brooo, not this... THIISSSS!! Forgot about it?) русские это не только жители мск, области и спб))))
 

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First of all you are terrible with drawing, secondarily RU/EU is often referred as a region in EMEA amongst worldwide companies
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This is what is mentioned when you talk about RU/EU region, if the server was only mentioned as RU then you would have an argument, which you don't in this occasion. Your basic understanding of geography is terrible, and even if you include West Asia and Asia Minor into the conclusion you still haven't reached China. It's simply an invalid argument because this server has always been based on the timezone around St. Petersburg, which is what you see in the photo above
 
Начну с предыстории... Буквально в августе вдохновился идеей засумонить друзей и их друзей на Archerage с других проектов(потому что ArcheRage самый лучший проект и мне тут нравится играть) , пообщался с многими людьми, и всё поголовно приятно удивились от показателей PvP в субботу, сколько людей приходит драться и т.д (потому что для других сторонних проектов подобные показатели очень редки)

Так вот, к чему я это... Мне не нужно убеждать и показывать, сколько людей пришло на сервер после первого изменения субботы годичной давности, у администрации итак имеется вся статистика. Банально вы можете убедиться в этом, увидев общее количество китайских и европейских игроков... Оно увеличилось и продолжает расти с каждым днем. Также это сопряжено с закрытиями официальных серверов в Азии и другими европейскими серверами, о закрытии которых давно было известно и все изменения по боссам проводились (и надеюсь будут проводиться) под стать этим инфоповодам, чтобы увеличить приток игроков, что безусловно имеет отличный экономический и статусный эффект для проекта.

Ещё раз... Игроки в эту игру идут туда, где есть пвп, комфортные условия игры и куда можно вливать деньги без опасения их потерять.

Теперь что касается поста автора... За графику могу похвалить, постарался, однако само предложение оставляет желать лучшего и лично я не считаю его объективным. В каждом варианте есть буквально несколько значимых изменений касательно тайминга 17:30 по выходным, остальное же либо схоже с существующим, либо вообще какой-то сюр про калиду 22.30-23.30. Кто в это играть то будет? Те же челики, которые фришат боссов на востоке (а, Ну да, благо есть отмазка, что пару боссиков пинги чудом задефали)? Ни китайцам, ни русским такие тайминги неудобны. Буквально в моей КПшке есть двое игроков, которым на завод в 6 утра вставать, либо образ жизни не позволяет играть так поздно.

Получается автор поста выдвинул выбор без выбора? Что выбирать то? Эти предложения касательно 17:30 предлагались мной ещё год назад. А что насчёт анталона в садах вообще? Босс и локация считается "меж серверной", однако в условиях 1 сервера других серверов нет и ввиду тайминга на него вообще мало людей ходит.. Где этот сервер и межсервер, если туда люди тупо не могут ходить?

Также хочу напомнить, что автор поста представляет одну заинтересованную сторону (ныне фармящую), а потому и понятны его причины предрасположенности к сохранению существующих таймингов (неужели не надоело играть в игру без оппозиции? Ещё лет 10 поиграем также? ).

Считаю, что изначальное предложение Администрации насчёт Кракена весьма справедливое, экспериментальное и интересное. Нужно тестировать. А лутгоблинам на фришке, которые трясутся и продают лутик и чаров - не убудет, зато пвп будет здравое.
 
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